Have you ever read a RAD check list?
RAD Behavior Checklist
A behavior checklist for RAD symptoms was taken from Liz Randolph's RADQ assessment.
A professional assessment is necessary to determine whether or not a child has an Attachment disorder. This checklist can help you identify areas of potential problem. It is not meant to substitute for a professional assessment and treatment plan. The best person to complete the checklist is the main female care giver of the child, answering the items according to the child’s behaviors seen over the past six months.
Circle the items if they are frequently or often true.
If you find that more than a few items (more than five or so) have been circled, your child may be experiencing difficulties that require professional assistance. If, in addition to several items being marked, any of the last three items is checked, your child may be experiencing attachment related problems.
I did this one for my non-adopted, not traumatized children I gave birth to.
1. My child acts cute or charms others to get others to do what my child wants.And wouldn’t you know it, it appears since I have answered yes to more than 5 of the questions on this particular RAD check list, my very own children just may have RAD. And only a professional assessment can determine if the children I gave birth to, have been with from their first moments, have breastfed until they were 2, carried in slings, co-slept with have an attachment disorder. However, with the exception of setting fires, cruelty to animals and cruelty to other children, *most* kids display many of these behaviors to some degree at some point in their childhoods, for some period of time.
Absolutely, and so does almost every child I have ever meet, with the exception of the kids I know on the autism spectrum.
2. My child often does not make eye contact when adults want to make eye contact with my child.
Yep, especially if they are in trouble or feeling ashamed. Same goes for most kids I have ever met or worked with.
3. My child is overly friendly with strangers.
Yep, my 5 year old loves chatting up anyone who will listen.
4. My child pushes me away or becomes stiff when I try to hug, unless my child wants something from me.
Oh, goodness yes! 13 year old!
5. My child argues for long periods of time, often about ridiculous things.
Ok, what child doesn’t argue with its parents about things that parents THINK are ridiculous? A parents ridiculous, is often a child’s very important. Really, you must have your milk in a princess cup and not the butterfly cup?
6. My child has a tremendous need to have control over everything, becoming very upset if things don't go my child’s way.
Hells yeah! ALL of my kids!
7. My child acts amazingly innocent, or pretends that things aren't that bad when caught doing something wrong.
Um, yeah, hello!
8. My child does very dangerous things, ignoring that my child may be hurt.
Yes, and so do I and every kid I coach! (If it was easy they would call it football)
9. My child deliberately breaks or ruins things.
Again, just about every little boy I have ever met…I wonder what would happen if…
10. My child doesn't seem to feel age-appropriate guilt when my child does something wrong.
Not always. And unless you are someone with a lot of experience with lots of different children, do you really know what age appropriate guilt looks like anyway?
11. My child teases, hurts, or is cruel to other children.
Now, this can be a serious red flag. My kids are constantly picking with each other as goes on in most families. Many is the day that I feel more like a referee in the WWF than a mother…Again however, if you do not have a lot of experience with children it may be hard to tell what is run of the mill kids pushing boundaries, sibling rivalry, and figuring out how to fit into a group dynamic, self-advocating and real cause for concern which warrants seeking professional help. (In my own childhood I lived with the latter, which was never addressed. So I would never minimize child on child or sibling on sibling violence.)
12. My child seems unable to stop from doing things on impulse.
That describes a good chunk of the kids I work with, most little boys, every kid with ADHD and all kids I know at some point in time.
13. My child steals, or shows up with things that belong to others with unusual or suspicious reasons for how my child got these things.
Like borrowing clothes from friends which I loathe?
14. My child demands things, instead of asking for them.
Abso-freaking -lutely!
15. My child doesn't seem to learn from mistakes and misbehavior (no matter what the consequence, the child continues the behavior).
I have one word…Algebra! There are other words, to be sure…but that is the one stuck in my craw at the moment.
16. My child tries to get sympathy from others by telling them that I abuse, don't feed, or don't provide the basic life necessities.
Yes, yes, yes! Do you know that we didn’t have ice-cream yesterday, that EVERYONE else’s parents let them go on the class trip to Washington D.C. and we couldn’t afford it, that I MAKE my oldest take care of her sisters, she has to get rides to after school functions when I am at work? I am down right abusive I tell ya!
I could do an entire blog post about the incredibly amusing conversation that my child told me she had with the school counselor! I’d have been mad if it wasn’t so funny…that poor lady!
17. My child "shakes off" pain when hurt, refusing to let anyone provide comfort.
Well…Um my oldest has broken her big toe, once in three places, and practiced on it for two weeks telling me that it ‘wasn’t THAT bad’ before I insisted she needed an X-ray…. I am not a big fan of “shake it off” ….my standard line is, “Are you hurt or scared? ‘Cause if you are just scared there is no need to be carrying on like that!” because, in all honesty, when you are involved in something where injuries are just a part of what you do you have to know what is what quickly, there is no place for wigging-out over stubbed toes…..broken toes well, some kids are just tough.
18. My child likes to sneak things without permission, even though my child could have had these things if my child had asked.
Well, she is 3… and she will just blame it on her sister or the cats anyway.
19. My child lies, often about obvious or ridiculous things, or when it would have been easier to tell the truth.
Oh, man, my three year tells some wild stories, and will tell me she isn’t eating in the living room even as I am standing there watching her do it! And now, “the kittens did it”, is getting a lot of play around here.
20. My child is very bossy with other children and adults.
Oy-vay!
21. My child hoards or sneaks food, or has other unusual eating habits (eats paper, raw flour, package mixes, baker's chocolate, etc.)
You mean not everyone doesn’t eat paper as a kid? How many people didn’t have that kid in there kindergarten class that eat paste? By the way Pica is can be a medical condition and between 10 and 32% of children ages 1 - 6 have these behaviors.
22. My child can't keep friends for more than a week.
Ha! There are a couple I wish they couldn’t keep for more than a week…does that count?
23. My child throws temper tantrums that last for hours.
Like the energizer bunny! One used to do it, one is coming out the other side, and one has a long way to go…
24. My child chatters non-stop, asks repeated questions about things that make no sense, mutters, or is hard to understand when talking.
Really? Are you kidding? I have three girls, sometimes I swear my ears are gonna bleed! Muttering? Like saying she hates me and what ever else under her breath as she sulks off….um yeah.
25. My child is accident-prone (gets hurt a lot), or complains a lot about every little ache and pain (needs constant band aids).
Yes, yes and yes! I have a gymnast, a daredevil and kid with Apraxia, strangely, around here a paper-cut causes more whining than broken bones. I should buy stock in, ear-plugs, Johnson and Johnson, ice-packs and Arnica!
26. My child teases, hurts, or is cruel to animals.
Now, this CAN be another real problem…but, since we just brought home two kittens that my children are ‘torturing’ (in my opinion) with excessive hugs, kisses, chasing and bombarding them with cat toys and being generally menacing it is something that may definitely be in the eye of the beholder. A parent’s idea of torture may be a child’s idea of loving-up! Yikes! They are keeping me on my toes!
27. My child doesn't do as well in school as my child could with even a little more effort.
Oh. My. Goodness!
28. My child has set fires, or is preoccupied with fire.
Now, that might upset me.
29. My child prefers to watch violent cartoons and/or TV shows or horror movie (regardless of whether or not you allow your child to do this).
Seriously, my kids (even my 13 year old) aren’t allowed and have never been allowed to watch much TV, movies or even play on the computer in the first place. (We – I mean, they are having a media-free summer. Well, except for the big girl going to see Harry Potter on opening night for her birthday) Because so much media is so violent, and I believe that the more kids are exposed to it the more they crave it. You can’t even walk through the grocery store around here without seeing some little boy sitting in the cart killing stuff on his DS, while mommy picks out her organic fruit. But that is another rant completely.
30. My child was abused/neglected during the first year of life, or had several changes of primary caretaker during the first several years of life.
Not even close!
31. My child was in an orphanage for more than the first year of life.
Nope!
32. My child was adopted after the age of eighteen months.
No.
I am not in a position to say that RAD doesn’t exist. And I do know what it is like to have a child who I knew had issues, and to have people reassure me I am wrong. What I will say is that I am concerned that foster and adoptive parents look at check lists like this and panic. I have concerns that children with run of the mill attachment issues and PTSD or other more likely illnesses are being over diagnosed with RAD, simply because they are adopted or foster kids and exposed to unnecessary and possibly counterproductive and coercive therapies in the name of RAD. Some *most* kids are selfish, egocentric, manipulative, demanding, ungrateful, and entitled to
Dannie · 714 weeks ago
sundayk 33p · 714 weeks ago
lee · 714 weeks ago
Sunday Koffron 64p · 714 weeks ago
Some of what I see*some* people attribute to RAD is just annoying, pain in the ass kind of kid stuff.
maryanne · 714 weeks ago
I raised three boys, and most of these categories fit any little boy at different ages. By the way they are all happy successful men today. So is the son I relinquished, although he had a harder time of it in a very messed up adoptive family.
There is a whole industry treating "attachment disorder" and some of it involves cruel and dangerous "holding therapy" and other forms of abuse and restraint in order to break the child's will and make them compliant to the parent's wishes. This is very bad stuff.
As to fitting a questionaire, there was a famous experiment by skeptic James Randi where he gave all the people in a class a horoscope after asking their birthday, told them to read it, and then report back how accurate it was. Many people said it was amazing how accurate it was for them. Randi then revealed that everyone had been given the same horoscope, general enough that their own minds saw themselves in it.
Sunday Koffron 64p · 714 weeks ago
Jean Mercer · 714 weeks ago
One web site that focuses on this ideology says that the children can be known by "a darkness behind the eyes". Randolph herself states that she can diagnose attachment disorders by seeing whether the children can crawl backward on command.
That's the kind of thinking people are dealing with when they get involved with these checklist things.
By the way, Randolph surrendered her professional license following a disciplinary hearing.
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stellarparenting 26p · 714 weeks ago
Joyce · 607 weeks ago
OnceRADmom · 714 weeks ago
Jean Mercer · 714 weeks ago
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Jen · 714 weeks ago
Rebecca · 714 weeks ago
For what it's worth, when we were trying to convince my dad that my grandpa was suffering from dementia, he insisted that all of the symptoms were things "we all do." And it's true. I bump my car into things more frequently than I'd like to admit. I often have a word on the tip of my tongue but can't seem to remember it. I'm often forgetful and need reminders to do various tasks. I lose things all the time.
I think the thing that makes the RAD checklists more dangerous is that at least with dementia you usually have a baseline to compare to. I may drive into things all the time, but my grandpa had always been a very good and cautious driver. I might have trouble thinking of a certain adjective that describes precisely what I have in mind, but I know for sure my grandpa never used to have trouble thinking of the words for eating utensils, televisions, and other common objects. My grandma may have been one to cause a scene at a store if she thought she had been wronged, but my grandpa had always been very mindful of decorum and would have never started shouting over an imagined slight.
And not only did we have a baseline to compare to, but we also had my dad playing devil's advocate. He was completely in denial and didn't want to believe it, even after brain scans and an official diagnosis of Alzheimers and some significant deterioration in my grandpa's abilities. But at least it was the type of thing where, in my family at least, people would rather believe it wasn't true than that it was.
The problem with the RAD checklists is it's a new kid (no baseline), it's much harder to measure, and it's less likely you're going to have someone standing there in denial pointing out every possible plausible explanation for the behavior. And then the kid carries the label. Even with autism, where I'm sure checklists also abound and where it's often not the sort of thing where there is a "baseline" to compare to, for many parents there is at least some incentive to come up with reasons for why their child doesn't have the diagnosis. While all checklists can be dangerous and silly, this distinction is what makes the RAD checklists a bit more troubling.
motherparadox · 714 weeks ago
RADisREAL · 502 weeks ago
Christine · 714 weeks ago
Sunday Koffron 64p · 714 weeks ago
Christine · 714 weeks ago
OnceRADmom · 714 weeks ago
Sunday Koffron 64p · 713 weeks ago
Photogirl · 713 weeks ago
jennie · 713 weeks ago
jennie · 713 weeks ago
Sunday Koffron 64p · 713 weeks ago
Sunday Koffron 64p · 713 weeks ago
It is tough to be parented by a parent from trauma. I have read that holocaust survivor’s children can have the symptoms of PTSD without having suffered the trauma themselves. I find that fascinating. I know I have inadvertently passed some anxiety down to my oldest daughter, but she is learning to deal with her “monkey mind” a little better every day, and so do I.
I truly feel for you and your daughter, parenting is never easy, and having a child with neurological/psychological issues makes it that much harder. You can’t get services without a diagnosis. The problem is, or my fear rather is that kids in need of help, thus a diagnosis will not be getting the proper care when not properly diagnosed. Bad therapy *in some cases* can be much more damaging than none at all.
I hope for your daughter’s future. I personally struggled into my early 20s, nobody would have believed at 11, 16, 18 or 20 that it was possible for me to have the life i have today....please hold on to hope!
Rachel · 713 weeks ago
Sunday Koffron 64p · 713 weeks ago
By your comment I assume that you are actively parenting a child with RAD?
And that you know who and what I have parented?
You know what personal experience I have with attachment?
Most parents have had the pleasure of living with one, two, three kids from trauma…I have lived with at least 100, with various issues including many (most) having problems with rage and some form of attachment issues…including myself. I always find it interesting when foster and adoptive parents think that they are the only people who have valid insight into foster and adoptive children. That is a bit narcissistic don’t ya think?
Sarah · 704 weeks ago
Donna · 713 weeks ago
And, yes, all the RAD questions would have fit at one point. But no way is she ever going to be made to eat differently than we do or forcibly held down. Those two things, in particular, really bother me.
Ettina · 514 weeks ago
Although I think you misinterpreted question #3. They're not asking about normal friendly behaviour. A five year old who chats up strangers is not *overly* friendly, just friendly. A five year old who sits on a stranger's lap is overly friendly.
Janice · 461 weeks ago
Cheryl · 379 weeks ago